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 Post subject: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:49 am 
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Hi guys, got out Friday, had a play about with some new hooks i wanted to try out. they are half circle hooks very cheap but very strong light and a nice wide gape.
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Here they are and very cheap.
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Some of the flies i tied for the outing, and to try the hooks out.
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And one of the few small but nice pike i had, fishing was very hard and slow all day.

But nice to get out. on the local lake.

Dai :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:40 pm 
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Great looking flies again.

Do you think that there was any benefit from the half-circle design?

If you haven't already, It might be worth checking out the Varivas range of sea fishing hooks. I found the "big-mouth" and "big-mouth extra" to be some of the sharpest hooks for their size I've ever used. Very strong and cheap too, although they are of a more traditional shape.

Note: I have virtually no experience of Pike fly fishing (we don't have them here :( )

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:07 pm 
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spill wrote:
Great looking flies again.

Do you think that there was any benefit from the half-circle design?

If you haven't already, It might be worth checking out the Varivas range of sea fishing hooks. I found the "big-mouth" and "big-mouth extra" to be some of the sharpest hooks for their size I've ever used. Very strong and cheap too, although they are of a more traditional shape.

Note: I have virtually no experience of Pike fly fishing (we don't have them here :( )


Thanks for the comments, yes have seen the Varivas hooks they are nice hooks for sure.
But did see these and liked the look of them. plus they take a big fly well, and the wide open gape works well so very happy with them.

You want to have a go at the pike one day, it can be good fun.

Dai.

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:26 am 
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good result dia, nice fleas as always :D

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:46 pm 
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Hi Dave,

Nice flies and lovely pike in the photo.

This is not a dig at you , but what is the point of wearing a life jacket and not having it done up properly. I see this in lots of photos and surely the thing will not keep you afloat / alive if it is not done up at the front!

Please don't become just another statistic.....wear it properly!

Rant over.

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:48 am 
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toml wrote:
Hi Dave,

Nice flies and lovely pike in the photo.

This is not a dig at you , but what is the point of wearing a life jacket and not having it done up properly. I see this in lots of photos and surely the thing will not keep you afloat / alive if it is not done up at the front!

Please don't become just another statistic.....wear it properly!

Rant over.

Tight lines.


Hi Tom, Know what you are saying :oops: , on that day out it got very warm and i just undid the life jacket so that i could open my coat and cool down a bit. and after that i did clip it up again, hope this clears things up.

Dave. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:59 am 
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Went out yesterday for a few hours, pike were not playing. just had a few pulls with three hook ups but the biggest about 10lb/12lb came off :x but we had a good day, as they say a bad day fishing is a better then a day in the office. so here are a few pic's.
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My first of the day, Tom my jacket is done up. :)
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Tony my piking partner.
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This is one that i had a few take's and hook up's on.
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And this is the one i had the fish on in the photo.

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:13 pm 
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love the last fly dia, hopeing to do alot of yakking at the pike this winter :D

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
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Stevie wrote:
love the last fly dia, hopeing to do alot of yakking at the pike this winter :D


Good one Steve, hope to see you posting some pic's of the huge Irish pike you are going to catch.

The fly you like is a great one for pike, just made out of mylar tubing. my mates and i do catch a lot on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
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Good fishing and great flies Dai,Im gonna have to get the finger out and do some piking soon.
Thanks for the pics,I must try get some of those hook cheap as chips.


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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:17 pm 
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Good fishing and great flies Dai,Im gonna have to get the finger out and do some piking soon.
Thanks for the pics,I must try get some of those hook cheap as chips.


Hi Corky, Thanks for your comments on flies, keep pulling at that finger :D and get out.

Yes those hooks are very cheap, but good quality will not let you down.

Look forward to seeing some pic's of some pike soon.

Dai :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
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davej wrote:
spill wrote:
Great looking flies again.

Do you think that there was any benefit from the half-circle design?

If you haven't already, It might be worth checking out the Varivas range of sea fishing hooks. I found the "big-mouth" and "big-mouth extra" to be some of the sharpest hooks for their size I've ever used. Very strong and cheap too, although they are of a more traditional shape.

Note: I have virtually no experience of Pike fly fishing (we don't have them here :( )


Thanks for the comments, yes have seen the Varivas hooks they are nice hooks for sure.
But did see these and liked the look of them. plus they take a big fly well, and the wide open gape works well so very happy with them.

You want to have a go at the pike one day, it can be good fun.

Dai.


I definitely will give the Pike a go in the future (maybe next year). I have only ever caught a couple of tiny ones whilst Trout fishing in England.

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:02 pm 
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Phil, Hope you do have a go, its good fun.

Also been playing with those hook, and the bend fine and you can turn them into a good keel hook look at photo.
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You can see hook top left, i have reshaped hook top right. turns it into a keel hook good for weed less flies, the fly in photo is tie on reshaped hook. and does work well.

Dai. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:32 am 
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Dai

A couple of years on, are you still happy with these hooks in terms of reliability and hooking?

I am thinking of getting some for tieing Pike flies - they are a nice shape and a bargain price as you say.

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 Post subject: Re: Day out piking.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:44 pm 
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Hi, a bit of background info on the hook your using.

If I remember correctly, that pattern of hook was designed as a snag hook, not a bait hook.
They were designed for use by commercial fishermen who were targeting Sturgeon in the Eastern block.

Because the Sturgeon feeds by swinging its extended snout across the bottom (windsceen wiper style) the fishermen strung a float line across the river with the hook lines hanging vertically about 6inchs apart and the hooks just on the bottom.
The feeding sturgeon got its snout caught on one hook and when it struggled it got caught by all the hooks within range.
If you check the hooks shape and the shape of the edge of a Sturgeons snout you will see that they are a good match.
This is why the hook has such a strange shape and also why they are a low cost item.

For small pikies they should be okay, but a larger fish the wire is too springy IMO.
I have used them for Black Bass (Largemouths) when using worm/stick baits (Senkos) and found that they stay buried if the hookhold is inside the fishes mouth, but I rejected them because of the constant losses with the larger and lightly hooked fish.

As a lifelong pike angler I have recently wondered if a circle hook rigged infront of a fly would find a secure hold as it does with sailfish etc...????


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